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EP.54: Amanda Brisebois—“If You Want to Be An Artist, Go to Business School”

Femcanic Garage Podcast Episode 54

EP.54: Amanda Brisebois—“If You Want to Be An Artist, Go to Business School”


[0:00] You want to be an artist don't go to art school take business instead.
Although the creativity is the most enjoyable aspect of my job is also a surprisingly small part of the day-to-day operations of running this business.

[0:14] You're listening to Femcanic Garage the podcast that features women in the automotive and Motorsports Industries a community that elevates, emowers
and evolves by smashing stereotypes and breaking down barriers for women. I'm your host Jayme Blasiman buckle up for the ride Femcanics.

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[1:14] Amanda Brisebois was in the driver's seat today she's a custom painter that specializes in airbrushing helmets and.

[1:24] She did not set out to be a custom painter she graduated from art school with a BFA in illustration.
With the goal of becoming a freelance illustrator.

[1:35] She started with humble beginnings as she developed into a show quality custom painter buckle up and enjoy the show.

[1:45] Hello Femcanics this is Jayme B coming to you and I have Amanda Brisebois in the driver seat today how are you doing tonight Amanda doing great.
So the listeners heard your pre-recorded bio so they got a little bit of your background but let's dive into this a little bit because you're the owner of Black Widow custom,
and you focus on motorcycle helmets and motorcycles as a whole we first got introduced because I put a post out there.

[2:19] When this whole pandemic started about some Frontline nurses and doctors needing masks.
Special grade masks and you answered the call and said I have some of those I think my supplier has some of those let me check and you proactively did that.
In that was my first introduction with you because I posted it on Hillary's Group auto body gals.
And you came to the rescue with it and thank you for that that was really cool no worries all in a day's work right.
Yeah so let's let's start in the beginning and let's get to know Amanda a little bit correct me if I'm wrong but you didn't set out.

[3:00] To be a custom painter on motorcycles is that correct.

[3:04] That's exactly correct in fact I wanted to be like a hot shot illustrator working
in like advertising and Toronto for these hip companies but I didn't realize you needed to graduate with 20 years experience out of Art School
yeah that's pretty tough to do right at Art School.

[3:24] Yeah so you shared a little bit in the pre-interview form about how you kind of stumbled upon that so you went to school.
You got your degree then what happened when you're all done I was unemployed of most of the time I was working
contract jobs were companies Which is higher you know illustrators or graphic designers and just keep you for like three months tense and it wasn't really paying the bills and I was also working like part-time jobs just to keep you know the bills paid and.
I remember
while I was a student my dad picked me up from school one day and he was like you know what I have a surprise for you Mike great and he ends up dropping me off at this little shop in town
and hands me this really cheap airbrush that.
Was no more than like $25 I would say and he goes just going and give a try and like all right and my only instructions were 25 psi and mixture paint ratio
two to one and one to one.

[4:29] And it was I'll check on you in an hour Mike what that's a total dad move yeah he wouldn't let me come home until I tried it because you know
full back story I've never motorcycle ride I've been riding since I was like
nine years old so I was already painting with a paintbrush on my own motorcycle so my dad's put two and two together like all so that's where that came from because it wasn't just like out of the blue but I kind of did it kicking and screaming.

[4:57] I wasn't a fan of it and then I tried finally figured out how the compressor worked and and this airbrush if anyone uses airbrushes.
They know gravity feed is best but this one was one of those cheap siphon feeds and I was using solvent paint and.
It was a plastic siphon hose so like every 20 minutes this thing is disintegrating into my air gun blocking my feed and it was like it's like there's got to be a better way like this is just
garbage so I was really like not into it at first.
Never made it how old were you when this happened I was 19 wow that's that's way cool.

[5:39] Yeah good for dad so he kind of saw this so this was your first day there and this was kind of at a small mom-and-pop shop that you were back in the corner just tinkering around.
Exactly it was just and it wasn't even like ventilated.
Didn't even have a proper mask I was using like basically a drywall mask I had no gloves like nothing that completely like.
Bare Bones all right Dad you failed there my friend give me a mask is like here's as airbrush have fun I ended up with actually with a liver inflammation
after a couple months because I was just so unaware with safety equipment in it's ironic to because the shop didn't even
tell me like these are people who are watching a hands and reducer so it was just really I got really sick and that's when I started learning okay
proper safety equipment so then I start investing in like the 3M you know respirator masks and I wore like the best nitrile gloves and.
After got sick because that's just no fun no no did you actually have to go into the hospital I did I was like overnight.
No not overnight it was just like hey I think I'm like I'm dying like there's something not right and then they did all kinds of tests and they're like yeah your liver is damaged and I don't drink so it was like it was pretty gross so they.

[7:04] Except some fluid some antibiotics and sent me on my way and that was it I,
much better now it's been real glad I'm 34 now so it's yeah it's been a few years.

[7:15] Been totally clean now careful right right right now how long did you do that there.

[7:23] I was there for maybe a summer.
Just kind of like learning the basics and I learned as much as I could from that shop because they weren't a custom paint shop they were more like working on sport bikes and just more tuning than anything they didn't have a proper spray booth,
so we end up finding this other shop through a friend of my dad's and this
shop owner he ran a shop called Chrome it and he is his name is Roland and this man became my shop dad
like he and I are still extremely close as of today and he was my mentor
and really got me like he kind of got me started and it just took off from there one side he took me under his wing
and he taught me I'd actually didn't even paint for the first couple.
Weeks or months there he had me learning how to prep that is such a good message for these young women to here and anyone,
because it's men and women listen to this podcast but I hear that time and time again I heard it from Connie managed he knows the owner of girls behind the gun she Paints in a shop down in Florida Jensen Beach Florida,
and Hillary the same thing and we did a shop talk episode with.
A few of the women that have been on the show and it was all about prepping and that was what they kept saying is your paint job.

[8:49] Is only as good as your prepping.

[8:53] And they kept saying that you need to understand that part first and it's not the sexy work is it,
no it's the messy nitty-gritty work that took me the longest to learn because
prepping plastic versus Metal even different types of plastic dealing with static and you know getting your proper ground bases on you wanted you know work over sealer like it's it's,
it's a different ball game and I don't know how to explain it but it definitely improved my paint jobs because at the end of the day if you're just working over you know a piece of crap you're basically just.
Painting on a piece of crap like it's not going to be any better it's like putting a dress on a pig yes like your paint will not fill those scratches.
That's what people think I'll go that'll buff sound like no like no so you spend a summer at using the $25,
paint gun and ended up with liver problems because of using a drywall mask
yeah I got educated you improved from there and then you went to this new shop how long were you at that new shop I'd say two years I was working with him and in between that time,
he introduced me to Iwata.

[10:09] That because you saw that crappy gun he's like throw that away you need one of these and that's when I started like learning proper tools.
And that was a game-changer Oh I so agree proper tools is such a game changer and you know.
People will poke fun at me because when I love power tools and I don't know why it's such a novelty for.
A woman to love power tools and tools but it's no different in whatever your craft is.
The tools make such such a big difference I don't care if you're in the kitchen cooking your knives are important clear to your gun when you're painting.
To your ratchets if you're working on mechanical stuff it just makes the biggest difference.

[10:54] Exactly now when you were there for you said 2 to 3 years then.
Yeah like I was working with him were you like an apprentice where you actually making money at that point or.
Oh God no I was just basically he had some extra space in a shop and is like you can come and hang out as long as you want just don't interrupt like you know shop
time because like that's like there that's their business but they had any questions he would come over and help me I would get paid on commission projects so he was a real driving force in like trying to get me some commission work because you know when you're just starting out like you don't have any contacts so he was instrumental in like,
getting me some confidence and working with actual clients like what it's like to deal with clients now did you like do any of the pricing.

[11:45] No he would do all that so you got a front row seat and hearing him go through some of that process or.
Yes and no like cuz he was working on cars a lot so the first projects He had me doing was really embarrassed to say those,
I was painting toilet seat covers you have to elaborate on that.
Well we let's see who wants a custom painted toilet seat a lot of people really.
Like if you paint a go to like your hardware store and you buy just a blank toilet seat cover and you paint it Harley or you put Ferrari or you put any kind of these people with their man caves,
and it wasn't something he was doing it was just like he thought he's such a clever guy he's like oh this would be kind of fun to do so he just had me starting on those and then he was you know I would make like,
you know two hundred bucks on these things no Kiddin,
this is purely just out of curiosity Amanda that if you use like you paint the Harley logo and stuff like that do you have to get permission or.
Well I'm Angie we're keeping the Sun at the table I'm not advertising on a site no that's that's a good point.
So things like that because I often wonder about stuff like that because it could only be beneficial for it's like free advertising for them.

[13:14] Yeah you got to be a little bit careful like I paint a lot of Harley-Davidson motorcycles now and I have to keep you know in line with their branding and stuff I've never had an issue with you no copyright per se.

[13:29] And even if so if a client commissions me to paint you know a Harley
decal on anything I have a contract that basically indemnifies me from any claims pertaining to that because they would have to take on that risk exactly so it makes sense that it's up to them to basically
take responsibility if they're commissioning that from me so I just kind of cover myself that way if there ever was and as you know that's brilliant the.
So I want to take a step back a little bit you were there for two to three years he taught you a lot about prepping and actual painting.

[14:04] But I'm curious what you learned.
From a business perspective because not not to have a spoiler alert here but your next step in your career was going out on your own.

[14:16] So there is a preparation in a preparedness to go on around that is that where you learned a lot of that
yes and no he ended up moving on he started doing a paint demos so he closed down Chrome it
but what I learned from him was basically you know where to get supplies like auto body supply shops
I was able to generate contacts through him which kind of helped set me up with other shops where I can do my own clear coating and stuff because I didn't have a facility once you close this shop I was kind of like okay now what do I do so I was painting my parent's garage
and the business kind of just kind of evolved on its own I went to Sheridan first four
Art's go to art school but I majored like I really took a course in business just because I wanted to learn like not to be a starving artist so I credit it both of those so a little bit of life experience from seeing how he did his business and then took what I learned at
And applied it to that so that's when I learned how to write proper contracts I learned about invoicing and just basically taxes and all that fun administrative stuff just through school
and then when I brush it on my own it was now just trying to get the clients and that was where my motorcycle came in
so people just see my bike and like all who did the paint and then it just kind of naturally evolved
wow so at this point you were how old when you started your.

[15:43] Company officially started black with a custom paint I'd say I was 24.

[15:53] 25 when I graduated and that's when I you know was still I wasn't like doing a full-time yet it was like my side Hustle but I was still operational under that name,
Ox I was doing graphic design jobs on the side working contract work and stuff almost a decade Amanda,
talk about staying power that's a true Testament to your quality of work you know you see a lot of companies come and go.
And the fact that your company's been around for 10 years and based on what I'm seeing.
You seem to be growing and doing well for yourself yeah I mean this I think
2019 and 2020 has been even though 20 20 still in the infant stages like business has been booming and it's mostly just
from word of mouth and just being in the right places in the right time
generating proper contacts in the industry and being a writer as well helps because when there's like events or trade shows or anything do with motorcycles like I'm they're mostly you know yes to promote my business but I'm also
you know enjoying it as a spectator as well because I just love this culture.
So I want to talk a little bit kind of take a step back and I want to talk a little bit about starting your business because there there's a lot of people.

[17:15] That are curious around that and Beyond curious scared.
Right and here you are you spent three years doing that on the side how did you maintain your your living.
Thankfully my husband had a full time job because if I had to do it as a single person with just my income I don't think I would have taken it to the next step until much later but,
I just hustled,
I would be you know I do trade shows and that's where I would get 90% my work is there's one giant motorcycle show in Toronto and it's motorcycle Super Show and I really invested in having a proper booth
I wanted to look professional you don't see any like you no flame fonts or anything I put like my graphic design
skill to use and my husband is also a really talented designer so we kind of work together to create a striking brand that is timeless and classy.

[18:17] Because that's essentially the kind of work that I wanted to put out so when people were go around these trade shows and they see all these guys doing exact same paint jobs skulls and Flames all then they come to my booth and I mean
I've got a burger helmet one point I had a Burberry motorcycle I have a you know I bring like things that they don't expect to see,
and they're kind of shifts they're thinking you know what I call that Amanda a woman's touch no it really is because it's a different perspective right.

[18:46] Yeah the fact that you are a female does make a unique because you bring a different perspective it's you being you and who you are is already out of the box for.
Those trade shows well I also didn't want to just be pigeonholed into skulls and Flames yes no that's fair that's absolutely Fair,
that's way cool and I'll tell all the listeners if you have not visited Black Widow custom.

[19:11] You need to go check it out I I was blown away by your artwork,
you impressed me by helping you know Source a mask and I'm like wow this is a cool lady doing this and then I got curious and went and checked out your Instagram page and your website and I'm like holy mackerel.
This girl is the real deal like it's it's one thing to paint.

[19:36] But just the just the custom paint part that that's a whole nother level wait that was just amazing thanks no you're very welcome and it's well deserved.
So how did you start what was the first thing you did like okay I'm going out I'm going to start this what did you do
I started being more diligent in returning emails as quickly as possible I would visit a lot of other you know
there's a motorcycle event I would go and participate in the ride just to get my motorcycle seen because I painted it I just switched up as often as I could just to kind of keep my skill
up and going and then it just all started with the more commissions I got.
And then more word-of-mouth because I can honestly say I didn't have to take out any loans I didn't open a shop or anything I worked exclusively
and my parent's garage for the first bit and then when I my husband and I bought a house
the first thing I did was I built my own studio in my own property.

[20:40] And that's where I do all my work I do rent out a spray booth
at a local collision shop just so I have the baked cycles and I have like you know the proper downdraft because there's no way I'm clear coating where I'm prepping
what did that feel like the first time that you did your first job in your own Studio what was that like.
It was great the commute was fantastic was that like did did you like pinch yourself was it like yeah.
This is real this is really cool well I built it
with the help of some people so like I was like in there doing all the soffits and fascia and shimming my windows and putting up the framing and dig in the conduit so it was kind of like an arduous thing so like
it wasn't it was more a lot of is more laborious I was just glad it was done I didn't really I had to jump in and just and just go because
I was commuting an hour just to my parents place to work and sometimes like it was just brutal so it was really sweet you know waking up my God,
there's my work and thus started the hermit phase.
Now I'm just curious why black widow why that name.

[22:03] Okay there's a little funny story with that because I'm not a Sinister menacing person I'm like the nerdiest.
Painter writer you'll ever see like I take the badassery out of writing because you know but with black widow I was 15 years old and
my dad and I have always been working on motorcycles since I was like a little kid and then he found me
my first bike which is a little for 40 cal esaki LTD 1982 and we pulled it out of a barn and it was just this crusty discussed in decrepit motorcycle is okay
I'm 15 years old you have a year to restore this so you can get your license officially
and ride near 16 I'm like okay sweet and on the gas tank was this little black widow decal and I'm 15 I'm like oh man that's so rad.
So then when it came time when I started painting fast forward like 4 years I'm 19 and.

[22:55] My shop dad Roland is like so we're going to call you when you start painting
and we're just kind of mowing for some ideas and I'm like well I want to be Black Widow.
And it just stuck and then by the time I got established it was too late to change it so I'm like well I got to live with it so
when you go go black widow you get Marvel Comics and spiders and then I'm down there what would you change it to if you could do it all over again.
I actually haven't thought about it I just been it's now become like
you know when you come named blind to it yeah I totally get it
yeah I don't even think about anymore and plus my logo my husband designed it I think it's pretty freaking cool so your logos way cool yeah he did an amazing job on that.

[23:42] He's super talented I think I'll keep him you think you'll keep him so you've been up and going for almost 10 years now.
And really your main form of advertising was Word of Mouth did you do any other advertising I mean you did the trade shows,
and you participated in rides but other than those I was a poet it sounds like just Word of Mouth advertising.
And then Instagram became a thing and then 2007 Facebook launched so then I'm like alright YouTube wasn't even around when I started.
Yeah I just started doing Facebook posts I created this little group like because they didn't have
business Pages back then you had to create a group so I'll just invite all my rider friends and they'd invite their friends and I would just post my artwork there
and then when Instagram launched that's when it really became a game-changer because then I didn't have to worry about like you know lengthy posts and all that I can just do quick pictures and you know just
get it up there and simple easy peasy and,
that's just you know people have short attention spans I noticed so if they get like a striking image then they're like likely to engage in that post and yeah.
Yeah Instagram is an ADHD dream.

[24:58] And I say that I have ADHD and it's it is a dream for folks who have ADHD
because you're right it's all like Visual and just very driven and it's acceptable to have short pointed posts.
Exactly and then people just kind of see what it's all about and I don't have you know I don't even have my name attached it's just black with a custom paint some people,
who just stumble upon it
they still think I'm a guy that like so they'll email me for cultic hey man how much the cost for this or what are you guys charge for this so they think I'm this whole big shop but it's really just you like my bro hey bro yeah,
and then when they meet me it's like.
Where's the painter you like you see him looking being around you oh man you want to see a man sweat is what I'm coming at his bike with tools to take off his tins so that's why I don't do that no more.

[26:00] Well I'm so I'm chuckling because I'm I'm seeing that thought like that picture in my mind
and you know we talked a little bit before this but you're pregnant right now you have 20 25 days to your due day,
did I just imagine this pregnant Amanda walking out like that that's awesome that is awesome,
well thanks to the pandemic I don't really have to do that anymore or they just leave the stuff on my porch and it's nice and easy contact free.
It's great it's one of the perks and benefits from it.

[26:36] Oh yeah I haven't left my house since March got everything you need exactly so I'm curious on a couple things
one question that I have for you is how did you learn how to price out jobs ah.
Just by basically making friends in industry and I would just blatantly ask him like what are you charging for this paint job because I wanted to be within the industry standard because if I were charging too low that hurts them.
Right and then if I quote too high that hurts me that is a brilliant take on that.

[27:14] I yeah I honestly didn't I mean it seems like common sense but when you put it that way like it hurts them.
At one it's thoughtful but it's the industry as a whole it hurts your lowering the value of it exactly the will never be able to get our you know prices up to standard,
because it's a lot of work and people don't understand what really goes into it.
Some people say well you painted my helmet but only took you two days why should I pay you 500 dollars but because it took me 10 years to learn to do it in two days,
yeah but that's a great way of putting it.

[27:50] You're getting the quality paint job that you're getting because of my experience and that's what you're paying for,
exactly and it's not about how much the helmet cost because some people will come at me like well I only paid $100 for the helmet why should I pay this and like okay you go to a gallery and you're going to pay $30,000 for a piece of.
Canvas with paint on it how much think that costs right right least you get there I wear this and enjoy it exactly.

[28:17] No that makes perfect sense the other question that I had for you was I just mentioned a moment ago that you are pregnant.
You are a painter what thoughts went through your mind when I guess one you found out that you're pregnant not that you were pregnant per se but.
How're if that impacts you at all and what you're doing well,
we tried for five years to conceive this miracle baby so it was it was very much a welcome planned painfully expensive process but I knew going into it
that my safety gear was the first and foremost most important thing.
So I it was funny because the bigger I got I had to keep increasing my paint suit size and again I'm 5 foot 2 so now I'm in an extra large paint suit meant for this 7-foot man just like it zip it up.
I imagine your legs are like rolled up,
crazy yes they are and I have the proper ventilation and all that so that was my first thought was okay I have to be very safe.

[29:29] And so far I've had you know no issues Health Wise because of my painting and then secondly it's you know I was thinking okay now how much time off can I take and my husband I talked about it and I'm just going to take 8 weeks,
and then get back into it so I'm going to stop mid-july no,
yeah Mitchell I'm going to stop and then I go back mid-september and he's going to take the 35 weeks did you say 35 weeks.

[29:58] Yes in Canada he's eligible for 35 weeks paid paternity leave not full pay but you get about 50% of your pay shut the front door you kidding me.
Oh yeah Canada is great I'm moving to Canada that I mentioned free healthcare boy wow.

[30:17] That's now did you have any initial concerns about continuing to paint while being pregnant,
only that I was worried that I'd be tired or I would be just to ginormous or sickness and you know what I've had the easiest pranks in the world I'm still keeping motorcycle parts back and forth like it's nothing I'm able to.
Work like sometimes I forget I'm pregnant and only unless I'm polishing and I have to bend a certain way I'm like oh I can't bend that far anymore,
but knows I've been very lucky,
I appreciate your willingness to explore this with me because I've received a lot of comments on Olivia Cooks interview because Olivia talks about.
Being pregnant and preparing to be pregnant and she's a painter as well and there's a lot of women are like oh yeah you know I thought I would have to choose between my career and having children being in the automotive industry but.
To painting because of the chemicals the chemicals right and there's you know some of them have been told no you can't and you know I.

[31:28] I think this is an important topic to talk about because to debunk some of the myths around it do you know what I mean.
Yeah well first and foremost the vocs that I'm putting out in my studio doing just artwork and airbrush is next to nothing I crack a window I have the vent open and I don't smell anything and I'm using solvents.
But I'm still wearing my mask it's a fresh air mask all that and as my doctor told me as long as your skin isn't in contact with it and you don't physically smell it.
It's fine and I've had many blood tests and they've been screening and all that stuff and there's been not a single ounce of toxicity in my bloodstream,
in see the you saying about the blood test can debunk any of the hearsay or any of that that's medical fact.

[32:19] Yes if you're careful mind you if you're you know now in an auto body shop where you're probably tripling your exposure I can't really say for that because I am just one person and my own little Studio
Wright's well Bentley so it's just me producing you know the vocs were.
Major body shop I can't really spray for sure how that would impact them as long as,
but my doctor says as long as you're taking precautions you're suited up your constant wearing your respirator and I change out my cartridges like every other day,
like I'm always changing them out so you know especially the particle filters and everything yeah and I think that the key thing here is that it can be done one.
Do your homework take all the precautions into for Olivia's situation she painted boats.
Big catamaran votes so for her she took the time off.
And she took an office job while she was doing it but I think the message here is that it's about educating yourself and it really depends on your situation.
And it maybe it's not that you can't have children and be in this industry in Europe your particular craft.
It may be that you just take a short break from it and then come back.

[33:38] Exactly and I've told my clients who are still emailing looking for estimates and wanted to book with me I'm like I'm back mid-september so if you want to reserve your spot.

[33:48] Give me a deposit and now I'm booking into like october-november that is amazing.
That is absolutely amazing what piece are you most proud of my own bike what about it are you so proud of.
Just because it's quirky and it's mine so,
I ride a dr650 and we did it more graphic style geometric so it's a flat tank but I made it look like it's,
polygon it's got is coming at you and I really enjoyed you know playing with allusions in that way and I paired it up with my most badass helmet it's a fish head.
You're going to have to provide pictures
so there's only Instagram the crappy thing about Instagram is sometimes I can't get those pictures like it like protected so it may be something you have to email to me so that we can share
with the listeners.

[34:48] Absolutely so I ride with a bell Bullitt and if you've ever seen that type of helmet it just the shape of it from the side it looks like a fish like there's it has the big side pods for where the visor connects
so I made that the eyes and then I painted on the visor just some gnarly like funky teeth and some really fun colors and on the back it's cut in half so you have like a salmon steak.
Looking at you from behind wow so it's just this really over cartoony,
helmet that people just they take a double takes it's the least badass thing but it's the coolest thing you're going to see on the road that day.

[35:24] And that's what it's about now have you taken pictures of your booth just the presentation of the booth.
Yes I have some of those on my feet as well so I invested in a proper like you know tent with my branding and then I you know it's,
spent the money and we got proper poster size prints of like some of my most current work and just to keep it clean and classy like there's you you I try to avoid bringing,
like I say skulls and Flames but sometimes like last year I did this ginormous Behemoth of a project and it was loaded like.
Demons and angels so I had some.
Meaning to my client but it was like a lot of work I have to put this in because this is like the biggest project I've done and it's worked out well.
Well I tell you what I mean I don't know if you would be open to the idea but.

[36:18] It was supposed to be this year but the pandemic has thrown a monkey wrench in my plans for having the first annual the kickoff of Femcanic Garage car show where it's all women-owned features.
Cars trucks motorcycles in what I have asked some of my guests to do is each of them have kind of their craft some of them are welders I don't know if you'd be open to designing one trophy.
For the winner of maybe the motorcycle paint job cool I don't know if you'd be up for that where you can.
Put your your logo and stuff on it and all the way from Canada and represent in the Femcanic Garage car show.

[37:03] Yeah for sure I have some spare.
Little gas tanks I can do up and that could be a one of the trophies I guess that would be way cool I love showcasing the women that are guests on the show.
There's the iron made welder
she does artwork works a lot with welding and plasma cutting and stuff and she's designing one and like Madison Irving down and she works with Connie man Trevino's
is designing one I always and not anything you have to do but I like opening it up to showcasing the amazing talent of the women that I interview,
that's amazing cool yeah and getting some getting some love for my Canadian peeps.
We're not all in igloos here,
well I tell you what Amanda I think this is a great time to launch into the Red Line Round what it is is it's just five rapid-fire questions there's no right or wrong answer to him whatever pops into your heads the right answer,
who I'm nervous I'm terrible Under Pressure are you ready,
see I need to get some like music added in here or something like that doesn't die really not real people
all right Amanda who or what has been your inspiration throughout your journey in the industry oh man that's a good one.

[38:31] My inspiration would be just seeing people really happy with their paint jobs and getting that.
I guess you call it satisfaction out of your work just it's addictive when people are super happy with what you've done.
That makes perfect sense to me because you know I love doing the podcast but when the women gets so excited for their their episode to launch and get published.
It's like their enthusiasm and excitement is infectious you know.

[39:04] Yeah to where do you go or what resources do you use when you want to learn something new or you get stuck on a job or project.

[39:14] I head up Instagram videos of people that I follow who are in the industry and sometimes I'll get the most random inspiration by just looking at someone's paint job and I'll see in the background
for example just recently in this is embarrassing to admit this I discovered
paper Dixie cups for mixing paint rather than using constantly jars if you're just doing one off colors now it's like that is so smart and they're like.
Two dollars at the store so I bought now I start using all these paper Dixie cups from a mixing like so Instagram I'd say is my best inspiration if I'm stuck on something.
I I hear that a lot for painters who are Instagram really helps them like that just the community in the network absolutely.

[40:02] What excites you most about what you do Amanda being My Own Boss,
and just doing something that I can tolerate and actually love to do on a Monday morning.

[40:17] Now that is the dream right yes my husband's very jealous you're living the dream.

[40:24] It wasn't always rainbows and sunshine but where it is now I'd say I'm a pretty sweet spot my career absolutely you definitely put in your work for it it wasn't handed to you.
Only that $25 crappy airbrush website do you still give your dad a hard time over that
no we sweep it under the rug that was ended it,
oh that's awesome okay Manda what is a personal habit or practice that has helped you significantly in the industry when you feel stuck.
Personal habit or practice so if I'm stuck on a project what do I do.

[41:05] Yeah if you're feeling discouraged or frustrated that's like.
A lot but you just push through it I don't really let it get to me I compartmentalize and at the end of the day it's a job I have to remember it's not life and death
and just try and figure out what the client wants and usually you know the simplest jobs always end up to be the most complicated so.
I have questions or if I'm stuck I try and bounce ideas off my husband or I have my team who I restarted working with for body work stuff out.
Pass it on to them.
Absolutely and finally what is your parting advice to other Femcanic s' finding their way in the skilled trades industry.
For all even go specific painting.

[41:55] Well everyone in a podcast of already said to never give up and basically to work hard at what you want which is solid advice so I'll also add to that you want to be an artist don't go to art school take business instead
talk a little bit more about that that's interesting
although the creativity you know is the most enjoyable aspect of my job it's and the reason I do it

[42:17] but it's also a surprisingly small part of the day-to-day operations of running this business it's actually secondary it's takes me back to what Hillary said in her interview with you from Inked and iron and it's not sometimes
I'm just answering emails all day or phone calls
and I have to be customer service I have to be you know the the prepper the have to make sure my shop is clean every morning before every job
and it's just a lot and also a lot of administrative I have to keep track of all my invoices receipts and taxes and everything so take,
my business course has really helped me with that especially with contracts because I try to avoid doing any Project without a written contract with prices already
discussed and agreed upon so I don't end up in issues down the road where you know I have a client trying to negate
price you know I can't I could be like well no we agreed on it here's your signature and this is a consequences if you don't pay kind of thing,
so business has been the most important part if so if you want to be an artist.

[43:21] Take business that is sound advice and it was not what I was expecting but it makes perfect sense to me.

[43:30] Amanda where and how can people connect with you and black widow custom painted well
again another shout-out to Instagram you can find I post like most of my daily work is on Instagram at Black Widow custom paint.com you'll see a,
simplistic black spider that spells out black widow can't miss it and it's also the same logo across the board for anything pertaining to my business on Facebook as well.
Those are the two best platforms and you can reach my website as well at info at Black Widow custom paint that's my email www dot black widow custom paint.com we got you I got you.

[44:14] Amanda thank you so much for hopping on and being in the hot seat on the Femcanic Garage podcast so I've really enjoyed our conversation and kind of pulling the curtain back and understanding your world a little better as,
a successful custom painter thank you thank you this is a lot of fun Amanda Brisebois Black Widow custom.
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