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EP. 67-Molly Gursky—“I Do Not Want to Be a Quiet Voice in the Room!”

EP. 67-Molly Gursky—“I Do Not Want to Be a Quiet Voice in the Room!”

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[0:00] The closer I got to cut high level the more I was like I don't want to be in a room where I'm a quiet voice I didn't like that environment well you can't say that,

says who you should hear some of the stuff that my boss says it's not a double standard if he says it it's fair game

and I'm not being critical and I'm not on my period I am just being honest and because you don't want to hear it you need something to blame

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953 6380. Molly Gursky is in the driver's seat today she's the co-owner of driven Restorations LLC, a classic car and truck restoration shop.

Every vehicle they build is meant to be driven.

She was asked to participate in to all-women builds and most recently they had a 1959 T-bird featured at Seema 2019.

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[2:13] Hello Femcanic this is Jayme B. coming to you and I have Molly Gursky in the driver seat today thanks for being in the hot seat today Molly how are you doing?

[2:24] I'm doing great we had a beautiful day out on the boat it was a nice long weekend so I'm ready to get back to work tomorrow,

Ah well, I'm not you're better than me I'd rather stay out on the boat longer,

oh my goodness so I actually had the privilege of meeting you in person

at Seema, I stumbled upon you and I think it was through Instagram just kind of through the network through the Montage build and Bogey and,

like wow, this is a cool lady I want to get to know her and see if she would be interested in being on the show,

and we just kept missing each other because you were doing this little thing called a build for Seema no,

no no small feat there but the T-bird was absolutely beautiful and I'm so glad I got to see it in person,

Yeah, it was it was great to meet you there and that was such a whirlwind that I feel like I met a million people and I don't know any of them so feel a little bad about that but that build was,

that was a whirlwind and so was the event yeah it took a while for us to recover from all of that Insanity yeah I imagine some hibernation.

Yeah, it'd be ideal although hibernation is never an option when you have children.

[3:52] No that's not an option it is not an option well they keep you on your toes and they're basically they are your schedule so yeah I feel you in this homeschooling things for the birds,

it's an experience it's an experience we'll leave it at that but,

I kind of wanted to take it back a little bit because when I started following you.

[4:19] This is a little further down your career and I always get curious especially with your background you didn't,

start your career in the automotive industry it just kind of went that way eventually so if it's okay with you Molly it's kind of like to take a step back and,

kind of understand your journey into the automotive industry so I guess what were you doing before you are in the automotive industry.

The real question is what wasn't I doing I've always been a really,

hard worker and I basically started working don't tell anybody but I started working when I was about

AIDS and I was mucking stalls and taking care of horses and I was out in the fields and teaching writing lesson schooling horses that sort of thing

and I ended up going somehow someway I entered shop class in high school and.

I'm still not a hundred percent sure what caused me to do that I always liked the idea of being able to take care of myself and be able to take care of my own vehicles but shock class was never really.

[5:34] I don't know on the agenda my family has no background in,

mechanics or maintenance or working with cars in any shape way or form, for the most part, made my dad would have me help him like change the oil in the driveway on our,

you know it was daily drivers it was a Volkswagen Vanagon

should we change the oil in the driveway and I just thought it was the coolest thing ever that she could like take stuff off and swap stuff out and I just I got.

Addicted to working with my hands at that point but then somewhere along the line it ended up being more of a,

well, you need to go to college so you can you know you need an education and education is extremely important and I would never change the way that I ended up here but I ended up graduating high school,

going to.

UW River Falls and I got my four year degree in animal science and I had my Bachelor's of animal science I had an emphasis in.

Actually equine but I wound up in the dairy industry as a nutrition.

[6:45] consultant which is basically a sales person with a science-based background so I was,

essentially making Farm calls and anybody that wants to get a solid career under the belt should do sales at some point boom Molly I gotta pause you I gotta pause you I so agree with you.

I so agree with you it is a skill that transcends all Industries because it's human psychology.

[7:19] It really really is yeah in some people avoid it like the plague.

[7:26] It's terrifying I mean there's no way around it sales is terrifying asking for things is terrifying.

But it is essential to your personal success in your livelihood that you become comfortable with it you have to if you never ask for the sale.

You never asked for Success it does not happen without.

Your initiative to ask for it yeah I so agree with you and I always tell my kids,

if you don't ask for it,

the answer is absolutely no because you'll never know yeah but if you ask it may be yes it may be no but at least you're setting yourself self up for the opportunity for yes.

[8:15] Exactly and I guess I was less afraid of a career in sales because.

I had done Deca in high school so that was basically and that's what made me fall in love with business ownership so I took,

courses in entrepreneurship marketing,

business management Logistics that sort of thing in high school so my high school offered a wide variety they still had an actual shot class as well as all of these extracurricular aspects and

the business courses were still part of their curriculum so I took all of those.

[8:52] And that was what really opened my eyes to I Can Be My Own Boss.

I can run a business I know how to get the resources that I need to be able to do this and I can make it successful if I want to

but it was that wanting to in that drive that made the difference and then going into a industry that was sales driven but still science-based so there was still fact and education behind it,

were you still had to know your stuff?

[9:24] So it intrigued me because I had to continue learning and master the sales aspect and like like you had mentioned you have to master that,

interpersonal relationship aspect as well you have to be able to read people and make their body language and understand where they're coming from show empathy but then still be able to ask for the sale because you're confident in what you have.

That that is so true I could never sell something I don't believe in.

I just couldn't yeah that's important yeah you do need to believe in it if it's I could never hug like,

bad jewelry or something is not not my thing oh my God that's hilarious it bad jewelry of all things,

I don't even like that's what's so humorous about us like jewelry yes it's appropriate I totally understand I could not Hawk badge or either.

[10:26] Oh that's outstanding so here you are you're in high school you go you leave you graduate high school

you go to college you get your 4 four-year degree and and I'm listening to your story I'm Molly and I'm hearing my own story and it through your story because that was the same thing when I graduated high school the message that I got from my family as,

duh they weren't rude about it but it's your next step is college

there was no other Next Step except for college right yeah no it was which college not going to college yeah it's not here yeah it's not if it's which one,

in what major those were the questions and.

You know I'm with you I wouldn't change any of it because I'm who I am today because of everything that I've done,

but I'm with you Molly I'm not sure I'm kind of curious in a way if I just would have started working from my aunt with my hands from the get-go.

[11:27] I know that I would not have yeah I do know that I know that I needed to.

Do the independent corporate life and I worked my way way up real fast so I spent three years doing sales for one company,

got fired for some really shady stuff because I was trying to leave that company and I actually ended up,

having a personal email intercepted when I was asking somebody if they would be my reference while I was job hunting and wait a second but you want to make sure I understood what you said.

They enter the.

It was your personal email yes yep I sent an email so you know how you like have a company computer and IT company email things yeah,

yeah I had I had a company email company phone everything but I sent it from my personal desktop on my personal email,

to a business contact of mine who had previously left the company that I was working for and let him know that I was looking at leaving.

And I wanted to depart and somehow someway my employer intercepted that email.

[12:43] On

I advise somehow I don't know I still don't know it still baffles my mind but they fired me for it and then tried to get me to sign a letter of resignation so that they wouldn't have to pay any benefits,

and I said no yeah I had to pay me unemployment meanwhile I was on the job hunt so I ended up hunting for a job and I had like 7 offers,

that were two and a half times my previous salary,

so yes please absolutely exactly the fastest way to increase your pay is to leave your current job let me just say that you are dropping you are dropping so many knowledge bombs

and you don't even realize it I've seen a lot and I've seen a lot and you're so right.

I am just sitting here thinking about what you're saying and I'm so I'm like sitting here nodding my head not that you can see me but I'm I'm nodding my head I'm like Molly's hitting the nail on the head and that is so true if you want to pay rise,

leave your current job and negotiate for yourself whatever your current salary is leave your job tack on.

Whatever percentage or thousands of dollars that youth double it there we go double it don't love it double it and go in with confidence and you're worth it.

[14:07] We love it keep going keep going what's next so I ended up,

I'm not signing the letter of resignation and I got multiple offers and at that time we were living in like Northwest Wisconsin and one of the offers happen to be closer to where my parents lived and where I grew up which was near Madison Wisconsin so I relocated,

granted it was a paid relocation because it was a bidding war so we moved and Steve had already Steve is my husband so at that time we had been married.

[14:44] A while I'm dates are going to be fuzzy here this year we've been married 14 years and we've been together for.

Woo hoo boy 18 18 years this October so.

We move down here just over 10 years ago I believe in it and he had just left his job,

he had worked in Collision Repair but he always wanted to do restoration I was working a corporate job but I always wanted to own a business so when we relocated we bought a house that was,

fit for both something that we could afford but that we could,

start the business here and have a solid foundation with good buildings have room to grow and it was close enough to my central location for work that I could work full-time,

and basically,

cover the household bills and then everything that Steve earned in the shop was going to build the business while I ran the books and the marketing side of the business.

[15:50] From there on out in order to grow it wow what team it was all extremely strategic and when I wanted to leave,

I always had a plan that when we moved down here I was going to eventually leave that,

job in my career I did not know that I would leave that career and be nearly as Hands-On as I've become and love it so that sort of,

each into my life and.

I would I buy that is like my favorite thing ever now when I need to spend time in the office doing bookwork I'm like no can I just go weld something let me out I want to go out I know right.

Thank you leave me alone with my welder and I'll be here.

I'm sitting here and I'm listening to your story and again I'm like oh my God she's telling my story too but,

I work in Corporate America in the idea of getting out of corporate America and you know having your own business and doing your own thing is so enticing but I'm curious.

[16:58] That was a corporate job that paid well and you had benefits it was security oh yeah,

how oh yeah I had a car what was that process that you went through were you scared like how did you end up getting to the point where it's like okay I'm walking away from this so it was planned to a point.

I knew that I was going to leave and I knew I knew,

a basic timeline just based on the shop growth because I was doing the books and everything for the shop I was very connected to everything that was happening,

in the shop at the cars and writing the contracts for the customers and all that sort of stuff so it's like the more contracts we wrote forward,

the more Steve and I were talking about okay well how are we going to do this transition it ended up sort of happening to me,

more so than me have me making it happen so,

about two years prior to when I initially planned to quit my job.

The business that I was working and changed a lot and they hired a consultant and let's just say he wasn't.

[18:09] The friendliest person to work with he wasn't outright lie,

harassing me or anything but there were a lot of issues that popped up and it forced me out a little bit earlier so when I made that decision to leave that job when I did.

It was terrifying it was both freeing and extremely terrifying at the same time I had all of our health insurance was through there,

our second car I had a company car company laptop phone everything I mean you name it they were providing it,

and it was helping subsidize my livelihood in order to help grow the shop so yeah it was scary.

[18:56] But it was still part of the plan but.

As they say, you know best-laid plans never work out quite like you think they will luckily this one you have to have the tenacity and the confidence to work through,

that change and adapt your plan.

And that is what we did I mean I'd be lying if there were weeks where I wasn't like I don't know how I'm buying groceries this week and that was very I come from a very stable childhood so for me to be in that situation was,

different what did your parents think of this.

[19:36] They were actually super supportive because they, I shared everything that was going on at my job with them I don't think I was a hundred percent transparent about the financial side of it because,

you don't know necessarily the financial side of it that's the thing is like people all they always say well it's all or nothing you either quit your job and you go work for yourself or,

or you know you ease into it do the side hustle thing and then you're never really free well I was kind of forced into the.

Quit your job and deal with it scenario and that's.

I don't see I still would not recommend it for people but my parents were extremely supportive because they saw what.

Was happening emotionally to me the job that I was in was.

Was basically killing me emotionally so I couldn't stay there and I knew it so I stuck it out as long as I could.

[20:34] But I'll tell you what I've had a shit-eating grin on my face when I went in there and they took them about a week to accept my resignation,

they wouldn't even accept my resignation because they thought they were going to get sued oh my God it was that bad that was kind of fun yeah it was bad it was pretty bad but it wasn't anything like outrightly,

litigious so it's not like there was anything there wasn't any I didn't go through anything that I have heard stories about in the corporate world where it's like very.

Sexual harassment based on that sort of thing it wasn't but it was very belittling it was definitely bullying and mistreatment.

And the irony of it is the guy was the guy that was doing it wasn't even an employee I'm just shocked the company would even allow that it's just disappointing yeah,

you and me both but it worked out for the best it really did so there's a bigger better plans for you.

[21:36] Yeah exactly and it pushed me out much faster than I would have planned to but sometimes you just need that extra like kick in the ass to,

you like hey stupid go do that now like this this is your path go walk it.

Oh I love that you'd mentioned that you know don't get me wrong there were days that.

I wasn't sure how I was going to get groceries I mean.

[22:05] Wow I'm just processing that my head to go from complete stability I did that cause any stress on your relation yours and Steve's relationship.

[22:17] We've actually always been extremely strong,

together so any time that we're kind of weird we're very old-fashioned we're kind of like my parents are where if one of us is going to make a major decision it's not a major decision for one of us it's for both of us,

but if one person feels that strongly that it is an absolute necessity it is the best for both of us and our families so in this situation that is what.

The situation was he understood that the shop wasn't.

Quite profitable yet I mean we were still only in like our,

mmm fourth year maybe so we were just like barely,

profitable the previous year because you have to buy so much equipment and we were cash flowing everything,

so it was a matter of I'm not going to pile debt on the shop because I can cash flow it so we paid cash for everything to grow our shop,

which was a blessing in disguise because then it's like yeah I'm at the grocery store going home I going to do this this week.

Except I don't have the debt Monster breathing down her back either so Steve and I were always very.

Open and honest and he knew he saw and he told me.

That I should have left sooner than I did even so.

[23:44] He was more worried about me as a person than he was about groceries.

[23:50] Something that I have thought about often is leaving corporate American kind of chasing after business.

But it's terrifying especially when you have children right because it's not just about you and your husband it's about thinking about the kids too.

[24:09] Yeah that's the number one thing yep yeah and I mean I had if I absolutely needed to I had places I could ask,

family for money if I needed to but that was not on the table for me at that mean that was like I have something to prove and I'm going to prove it that we can do this,

you quit your job.

[24:32] And now the next week you don't have a job in well you know corporate job.

You just start working in the shop then yeah it took basically I did yeah.

[24:49] It took a couple weeks to get into the swing of things so I mean you have to get a routine because it's sort of like if you hire somebody new and Shop you have a new body,

they heard from you know that Bobby needs to be doing something in order to earn money and at that time

my skill set was pretty limited I mean he had taught me how to weld and how to do basic assembly and things and you know is jokes that.

I'm that type of annoying person that if you show them something for five seconds then they can do it for the rest of their life and do it better than they can

so like you're just you're a jerk and anomaly and I love you for it he would just show me something once.

[25:32] And I could do it and I can't put that into words.

[25:38] Because he's not the only person who's ever told me that and I don't know why that is but I am a very Hands-On learner so especially if it is something that is

tactile that I have to physically do with my hands that require some sort of forethought and planning so like if you're going

assemble a car what order do you do it in that I make a checklist go down the list do it all if I run into a task that I don't know how to do I

ask somebody they told me how to do it one time and then I can just do it and you just go down the list and then the cars done and off you go so

I'm a very no-nonsense worker sometimes people

tell me I'm too quiet all right I'm cold or something and it's like no I'm just busy like this is business I'm focused I am focused on what I am doing leave me alone unless it's important,

just the whole idea that you guys bought a house knowing that you're going to grow your business and here you are you are,

now working full-time in your shop which is called driven Restorations and I love what I read

you said when customers pull up they are greeted by our three dogs who are always in the shop or sleeping in the driveway and as soon as I read that I'm like I could imagine doing that I could imagine.

[27:05] Driving my 65 Ford Econoline to visit you and have have a glass of wine or I'm a bourbon girl.

[27:13] And watching these dogs chase me up the driveway I'm like how neat is that.

This is a very picturesque location and there are dead don't get me wrong there are days when it's like I just want to run away but.

Then how spoiled are you really so then I just feel like an a-hole because I'm so tired from everything that's going on especially this this year has been interesting.

With everything so yeah you just sometimes you have to sit back and just look at the sky and appreciate,

the world and that the bigger world around you it is still spinning and you are like a teeny tiny little ant in it and you need to just embrace it.

Do your best and keep going yes that is Sound Advice my friend in.

[28:11] This me this also means.

That when you quit that corporate job and you started working full time in the shop that now you are working with your husband then in the shop.

[28:24] Then you go home and there's no real division there and there's probably some listeners like I could never work with my husband right what yeah what makes it work.

[28:37] I really have no idea they're actually day or weeks I guess that if,

working in the shop and I'm actually two separate from working with him physically like where were fitting a bumper or Consulting each other on metal fabrication,

or he's bouncing ideas off me for an engine or hot rod chassis or something like that where we actually are you more if we work.

More distantly we get along great when we were closer together so like if you leave us to alone in the shop,

for a month we're happy as clams this it's kind of ridiculous it's like the more interruptions in the more outside world that comes in and interrupts that process,

the more difficult it becomes and I can't explain it other than.

[29:31] I knew he was my soulmate when I met him that's pretty that's pretty much what it comes down to its solid respect for each other,

is the foundation of that absolutely do you guys ever get on each other's nerves.

[29:47] I wouldn't even say that it's on each other's nerves it's just more of like a,

noticing thing like Steve's a total Storyteller so I mean he'll talk your ear off and tell stories for,

an hour if you'll let him and I'm more of a okay we're done here let's go,

but it was nice chatting now let's move on yeah

it's nice chatting I have things to do I'm going to leave now I don't care if you're still talking I'm going this way if you want to keep talking you can follow me goodbye, no Molly would you consider yourself an introvert or an extrovert,

you know I used to say that I was an introvert I am an ambivert an Amber I haven't I haven't heard that one,

you have okay so an ambivert is somebody who can manipulate their personality between the two as needed and that is why I was so good at sales,

because if I needed to be an extrovert to work with an introvert in order to get them to sort of like come out of their shell or if I needed to be

an extrovert for an extrovert because that's what they wanted I can do it if,

need some if stuff needs to be done then I can become an introvert and I'm perfectly fine being alone in a building by myself or,

week at a time.

[31:08] Getting stuff done and I'll reach out as needed but I don't necessarily need people to keep myself motivated if that makes sense oh that's interesting.

It is yeah I know I always try to put myself into one of the boxes and I always knew it wasn't necessary I am definitely not.

A natural-born extrovert I'm not the life of the party I'm definitely tired after.

Big events with lots of socializing.

But I can do it when I need to and it doesn't hurt me in any shape way or form it doesn't make me feel anxious or anything like that yeah it does it doesn't cause any sort of like reaction of some kind it's just that.

I know how to schedule myself so that's a once-a-week deal and I'm not going to do that twice in one week so.

It's a general emotional intelligence I guess is what it comes down to so that you understand.

Your feelings and your impulses and what you need in that moment.

I love that and I have never heard of that before in the more I'm listening to you explain it I'm like man I like my alone time,

but I think I'm more of a natural extrovert but I definitely get recharged during some of the loan time to like the quiet alone time.

[32:38] Yeah I never fit in one of the boxes yeah they would always like give you like

text checklist of which one are you and I was I was like half on one side and half on the other like well I don't feel like where's the continuum

think exactly I'm like well just like I'm both yeah and eventually eventually they did actually come out with that whole anniversary thing where you don't need to be in one or the other and whenever I did those personality test I was always very much in the middle of the spectrum,

yeah so I can basically whenever I wanted to I could go into any one of those four corners be like oh now I'm over here away now I'm over there.

[33:20] Yeah kind of I'm sorry I'm sitting here listening to this and and I'm chuckling inside because,

there's that there's a conversation around whether you're straight or gay it's like there's so many that's like this Continuum I'm like oh my gosh and there's they've come up with so many new words,

to describe things in some of it I I don't I I'm I'm learning,

fear things that they can't put in a box if they can't put it in a box or on a checklist it's scary yes.

Yes and to me it doesn't scare me I just think that I think it's interesting and yeah that it's that simple to me it makes me curious but.

I don't know it's just some things it's like what is so scary about this and I struggle with trying to understand and connect with some people who have such a great fear around it.

Whatever it is.

[34:22] Do you think maybe that's because you were you went to a four-year there you you went to college I feel like people who experienced whether they finished it or not but they went and they experienced,

an after high school program of some kind have a bit more curiosity.

[34:43] Not necessarily knowledge yeah a bit more respect for curiosity and exploring.

The unknown and not judging it before they understand it I haven't really thought about it Molly but it makes me think more about it.

[35:01] That would be interesting research went in it versus the the individuals that never left home right yeah or their hometown.

[35:11] Yep.

[35:13] Yeah you're more open-minded your more exploratory you look for things and you don't necessarily judge it before you know it and you know a lot of things you never know,

how do you judge them if you don't understand them right greatly close-minded or by that by any standard why even judge just,

it is it is what it is that's what that's one of the things I love about the automotive industry and I said it before and I'll say it again,

is that in it's not just the automotive industry there's a lot of other topics and sports does can do this as well.

But you have people who may have completely different political views or values or whatever the case may be fill in the blank.

But the cool thing that I love about Automotive is that you can have.

Two people are completely two different ends of the spectrum whatever that spectrum is and you can sit there and have a conversation a.

Fun conversation together about something that you're both passionate about and it's just about finding more things that more ways and more things that were alike than we are different and I always think that's really cool,

I agree yeah and Steve always Steve always touted his gut about people and.

[36:34] I always felt a little bit naive because when I would meet new people I'd always think the best of them.

Always until you give me a reason not to respect you or trust you I will just assume that you were good whether you're a hobo on the street or like some corporate executive and the older I get,

the more naive I feel like that makes me but it is still something that I'm I'm struggling with with myself because.

You don't really know people you've met them and there's a big difference and I'm not sure where to draw that line between knowing and trusting.

Yeah I'm the same way Molly it the way you're describing Steve is similar,

to like what I described my partner as and.

[37:29] It sounds it's almost kind of like vinegar out of the mouth sound referring to yourself as naive,

right because I don't want to consider myself naive it yeah but at the same time it's like I do the same thing I'm I will trust you in always give you the benefit of the doubt and

that has backfired for me in my life on many occasions unfortunately yeah yep and for me it's been on.

A very few large occasions and.

Let me tell you if you you prove me wrong that you're a good person you will never get off that list ever but it does take a fair amount to get,

on that list of people to The Blacklist avoid,

yeah get blacklisted I don't know because I wouldn't,

who's the new salad like the Mobsters from Chicago.

[38:40] People oh my goodness because we're so ghetto.

Oh man that's so funny oh jeez in this kind of not that whacking,

people made me think of this but I'm sitting there just thinking about here we are, two women, bullshitting about in in the automotive industry having a conversation and

you were actually part of two all-female builds and what I find interesting about that is that.

Your day job is a hundred percent working with your husband so I'm curious when you had an opportunity to do an all-female build.

Here you are working exclusively around women and then your shop you're working exclusively around men did you notice any differences or.

[39:42] Um yes so and even actually I think Steve is really the one that pointed it out so when I very shortly after I left my corporate job I actually ended up being.

I don't remember how I got hooked up with Joann Bortles but.

Somehow we connected and I ended up in Florida with her for the valkyrie build and that was in 2014 I think at that time I was a.

When I showed up there I told Joanne like look I can take Direction you show me something I can do it,

and that was where I was in my skillset I was a novice but a very quick learner and I knew the basics I understood quality understood how to do certain things,

basic shop operation stuff like that and when I came back from that I came back on a weekend and I want to say it was like.

Even a late Saturday or early Sunday and I was so motivated.

[40:52] Because I have found people to connect with on a different level it was different people different.

Approaches to skills different procedures.

But different is not wrong it was just something that it opened my eyes to being like there are more than a million ways to skin a cat and I've just learned a few.

And I came back and I felt very empowered because I had knowledge that I didn't have when I flew to Florida so when I came back the first thing I did was put on my work clothes and go out in the shop and sand a car all day.

I could not get enough of it I was so motivated and I sanded that car until it was ready to be painted and we did that like five days after I got back from Florida.


Not to say the Steve doesn't motivate me because obviously it's our shop and our things and every you know it's our reputation at stake here but when.

[42:00] I was able to connect with other women in the industry it just it lit a fire.

[42:06] And the same thing happened to me on the valkyrie build to it was or on the on the Montage bill.

But that was different for me because I was more of the experienced person there.

[42:23] So it was a bit of a we flipped the script.

[42:28] And it made me feel empowered in a very different way like I could do it and I knew how to do it and I have the confidence to make decisions because even.

[42:40] Just being in my shop working with my husband there are days where you're like am I doing this right.

And sometimes it's merited sometimes it is something new that you need somebody else's input on.

And Steve gives me honest feedback every time.

And if I'm still questioning anything or if he's still like well maybe there's a better way than we do research iPhone friend I find ways to educate myself.

[43:10] But I felt empowered in a way that was much more personal confidence than just motivation mmm.

Did you find any differences females versus male I'm just curious because you have a unique perspective they're a lot less you go.

[43:30] So like when you go when you work when I went and worked with women and I don't I can't speak to whether or not it's just because they're women or if it's because the environment

or what have you but it just seemed a lot more collaborative where if somebody had an idea it was respected and it was entertained,

and you were heard you were necessarily right.

But they heard you and they understood you and then you'd all work it out whereas and I mean there's more than just Steve here we have

male employees and they're all much older than me so well when you worked in Corporate America to and just because it's in a shop I mean there's still the any one of those settings you don't,

you get there's a grain of salt with pretty much everything you say.

And I'm very sad to say that even when I sign an employee's pajak who happens to be a male I'm still questioned in my own shop.

And it makes me upset.

[44:38] But not not uncomfortable yeah because I can't change other people yeah.

And I still signed their truck and if it gets to a point there you know you don't need to work here yeah yeah that's it and it's interesting.

In the fact that female empowerment and women empowerment doesn't equal male disempowerment no but it's it's this interesting thing.

If a woman questions those Dynamics like what like what you're saying the ego and things like that she's being a feminist but it and it's used in like a negative connotation.

[45:23] But I don't know masculinity is celebrated.

[45:29] But I yeah I love the I love the fact I'm a woman.

[45:35] Yeah exactly and that was one of the things in corporate the closer I got to the the corner office which.

I was basically the right hand to the VP in my department.

[45:49] When I left the closer I got to Pat high-level the more I was like I don't I don't want to be in a room where I'm a quiet voice,

because I am not a quiet voice I don't know how many times I've said something in public and seems like you know you said they're really loud like so do you say it louder than,

wow like what's your problem I was right I mean I didn't like that environment where it's like,

well you can't say that says who yeah like you should hear some of the stuff that my boss says like this is not,

it's not a double standard if he says it it's fair game.

[46:37] And I'm not being critical and I'm not on my period I am just being honest and because you don't want to hear it you need something to blame

so pick the woman what hey there's there's so much truth to that and in Mali you probably experienced this and I think it's funny where.

You're sitting in a meeting and

and I don't mean to pick on male's but it's funny we can have fun with the differences between male and female but we need when call a spade a spade when it's their right

but sitting in a meeting a guy says something in this has happened to me before and I'll say something.

[47:19] It's like a better idea when when they say it or they say something and I'm sitting there looking around,

but it's a senior person that says it so it's the greatest idea since sliced bread because everyone kind of everyone's kissing their ass and I'm looking around like.

Seriously like people really need them and I'll say them like I disagree and sometimes that has shot me in the foot and other times it has earned me more of their respect it really depends,

what I have found on the their own personal confidence self confidence.

[48:01] And that is the thing is you can't you cannot ever take it personally,

male or female because that I mean there are bad females out there there are some women that I have met in the industry that I'm like you are not my cup of tea and I do not need you in my life look at that is it and but.

This you have to be confident in your own resolve in your own goals and who you are.

In order to make that decision about another person and so many times the people that are being super reactive to you are the ones that are.

Feeling less than confident or threatened recently really screwed up and they're like oh crap does this person have something on me like do they know that,

I forgot that conference call that was super important or something you know you never know what yeah well somebody else's life is is doing to them.

What is next for Mali then here you are right now what's that you've had a Sima build what what is next for Molly.

[49:15] This year has been a lot of re-evaluating so sometimes bigger isn't always better.

So when we went to see more that was like.

[49:27] That in 2019 was a great year for us we had a lot of really great builds a lot of really incredible Partnerships with,

suppliers and people and I still I cherish all the ones with all of them.

This year has nothing has gone as planned so we are basically.

In a holding pattern right now so my future holds me staying in business and staying in the shop.

Continuing to work on cars with Steve we're still booked into 2021 so I mean it's business is fine.

But it has really made us re-evaluate what is important to us and family is definitely first.

[50:20] And we need to be very intentional about how we spend our time.

And that's been the story of 20/20 specially for small businesses is just making the right decisions to.

Take care of your business and keep the doors open.

Yeah it's been I don't know the first half of the year I was pretty optimistic that everything was going to be.

Okay and mostly normal by now and by now I'm going no nothing's normal and.

Everybody just needs to take a step back and reevaluate their priorities because in the end we do build toys.

And I understand that their family heirlooms a lot of them are vehicles that they've owned since childhood and.

[51:14] I get the importance of it.

But I cannot control my suppliers lack of availability of parts and I can't control delays in shipping.

[51:25] And there are delays in shipping I am blown away by how long certain things take now.

But that's not even the half of it the other half of that issue is that a lot of the stuff that's showing up is not.

Built to spec or correct we had a crate engine show up that had rockers that were they had a ton of play left and right which they're not supposed to.

And we've had I don't know how many like electrical parts fail new out of the box so then you add all of that broken windshield showing up.

I mean I cannot count or name the number of obstacles with parts that we have come up with and then.

Everybody's on edge and we love our customers we communicate with them a lot and we send them photos of their cars constantly and it's it's still a matter of.

[52:29] Well why isn't it done yet and when it's beyond your control it's really really hard to still feel good about yourself.

When you when you miss a deadline or if somebody's a little bit upset but at the end of the day.

Keeping your priorities in line needs to be first and foremost.

[52:53] And and hearing you talk makes me think about the Red Line Round because a lot of stuff that you're saying.

Falls into the questions that I'm going to ask you so I don't want to steal all of your thunder yet but okay are you ready for the Red Line Round.

[53:14] Sure let's go see you've listened to the podcast before so you know the Red Line Round is just five rapid-fire questions there's no right or wrong answer to it whatever pops into your head first the right answer.

Breville feeling I may know where some of these are gone so let's give it a whirl who or what has been your inspiration throughout your journey in the industry.

My husband Steve,

background noise ah you know in like clapping I should get those for my podcast.

Oh God that's awesome that is so awesome.

Where do you go or what resources do you use when you want to learn something new or get stuck on a job.

I've gone a friend first I hear that in every time I've ever reminds me of.

Wasn't there a game show where you could phone a friend yeah.

It was the millionaire thing that with Regis Philbin yes what would you like to pick didn't ya,

Who Wants To Be A Millionaire would you like to phone a friend why yes Regis I.

Yeah exactly yeah see next time you think of that you're going to see and you I've just ruined phoning a friend for you now.

[54:43] Yeah probably you can be like damn it Jamie.

Molly what excites you the most right right what excites you most.

About what you do seeing results I like to see what I built.

[55:05] Be finished and driven so that it's very rewarding and and I imagine.

You've observed some of your clients probably.

Getting pretty emotional when they receive it to that delivery oh there's been a lot of Tears yeah a lot of them cry.

Because they're big they're all family heirlooms they're not just like.

Auction cars or something there they all have meaning those are some of the the best to work on.

Molly what is a personal habit or practice that has helped you significantly in the industry when you feel stuck or discouraged a personal habit.

My morning routine so I wake up in the morning.

[55:55] At like mmm 4:30 4:45 have a cup of coffee and take my dogs for a walk.

I read a book or it's a very short passage in a book really every day,

and do a little bit of journaling so that I get my mind right.

Nothing ever goes right as the day goes on usually by noon it's a shitshow so at least my morning is within my control wow that's a great routine but I want to just

double check myself did you say 4:30 in the morning,

yeah yes I did I'm a morning first it's not like that's not like anybody I know my daughter gets up really early so like I have to get up like

really really early to get up before her and I don't even send an alarm I just wake up that's just when I wake up - like he's I can't,

is something wrong with me what time do you normally go to bed now

wow yeah and usually in bed by 8:30 I mean I still get my sleep and everything I just okay you just go to bed earlier

okay yeah so you're still getting your 7 hours of sleep got it yeah yeah.

What is your parting advice to other femcanic s' finding their way in the skilled trades and automotive industry.

[57:25] Put you first you are worth it you are your only limitation and you have the power to remove those limits I can't think of a more direct straightforward thing to say.

And I think that was said beautifully Molly where and how can people connect and driven Restorations.

Probably via all of our business pages so we're at Driven Restorations with an s.com and we are driven Restorations on Instagram and Facebook,

and those are probably the best places to like follow and message awesome.

[58:06] I do have to ask this cuz it's pure curiosity do you have a favorite build.

Oh goodness.

Um yeah until we did the T-bird it was the 51 Ford but now it's,

it's got to be the 59 T-bird because I put all the miles on it before the owner took it home she's a lot of fun to drive just love it I love it,

Molly thank you so much for being in the driver's seat today and pulling back the curtain and let him letting us into your world

for just a little bit thanks again thank you so much I appreciate your time what you do.

My name is Molly Gursky I am the co-owner of driven Restorations LLC and I'm a Femcanic.

[59:00] Renee Brinkerhoff is in the driver seat next the 64 year old world rally racer and philanthropist has traveled the world.

Her and her team have one goal to rescue children around the globe from Human Trafficking by raising money through the valkyrie racing in Valkyrie gives.

She plans to complete a 20,000 mile World Rally tour this year in her 1956 Porsche 356 A.

Trust me this is not an interview you will want to miss until next time Femcanic.

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