[40:46] Winning the vehicle that one the great eight and you are the painter for it what's that time lapse.
[48:22] From these people I was like you know quit look at me you know just out of curiosity medicine because you bring up a good point,
I'm graduating 2012 we got the Riddler 2008 teen six years.
Six years in probably to approximately two of those you weren't even painting cars correct.
[41:09] Wow yes right yeah and if this goes back to me just being a sponge.
You know there's a lot of hard-headed people out there they're like nope it's my way or the highway and.
Like whenever I was out there with Chip Foose with the other guys Gas Monkey all these other people that are way smarter than me every time they would do something I would sit there watch them.
[41:38] I picked up a lot of Trade Secrets I guess you could say little tricks,
and I would apply them I'm like oh well I seen someone so do this I'm going to try this.
And it's never a close-minded thing you know I'm always learning I'm always advancing there trying to advance you know what I mean absolutely.
That's amazing so here you are you're at the shop,
and you guys earned this grade 8 which is like the Pinnacle the only step above that is the Riddler.
Right so who knows maybe that's next in the cards for you Madison it's just working your way up kind of like you did with skillsusa where you know.
You just gradually worked your way up to winning it all so you're at this shop and there came a point where you but you decided to leave the shop.
Okay so it's one of those stories what happened was so we get back from Detroit and everything was cool that was a Monday.
[42:51] Tuesday Wednesday I was off Thursday I go into work just like.
[42:58] Nothing just like everything is fine you know have my work pants on or I'm ready to work so locked in and.
He says Hey and there was a lot of weird stuff going on in the shop just like the vibe you know they work environment was just off it was terrible.
Like there was a lot of stuff going on so anyway a clock in and.
[43:25] I do something and then he's like hey will you meet me out front so I got front and he he just a straight-up hey this isn't working out.
I was like okay you know and I'm like why and he's like I was just not working out why,
you know I'm just keep asking him why he needed a vehicle that's literally what I told him I said I know it's not work performance,
because I was here last week all week till four am trying to get this car to Detroit.
But like I said it's no it's not raining formance it's not that's not an issue what's the deal oh well it's just not working help blah blah blah so he slipped up,
and there was jealousy issues.
[44:16] This is not me speculating or whatever so I was on the cover of this 3M brochure thing for the new 2.0 cups PPS cups,
his son I think was in charge of the social media and he shared you know because I posted it because I thought it was pretty cool so he shared it and he said oh you know congrats to one of our own,
doing some cool stuff and whatnot well the boss started to do it right and I'm like okay well that's kind of weird you know you're not proud of somebody you know that was my first red flag,
that's way weird yeah anyway as he's firing me,
he says something he yet this is where he slips up he says you know it took me 10 years to get my first feature in a magazine.
And I look at him and I said what does that have to do with anything.
[45:14] Nothing wow I was like that obviously stemmed from that whole post,
or maybe even did you get attention and Detroit to while you're there oh yes it was it was crazy but apparently people fly off the handle if they know a girl painted something who would have known.
But I didn't know and then you learn the hard way on some stuff at Detroit which is really cool you get a day in advance to set up.
Like you can say ended buff right there on the showroom floor which I thought was pretty cool you know there's a whole roll of cars and people are just cutting and buffing on this stuff.
And I'm like I had no idea we could do this you know I would be sanding and buffing some stuff right now I just thought we were done.
So a new couple guys from Wizards and they had.
[46:11] You know they let me use a buffer they let me use all the stuff right so I'm like okay I got to get this car buffed do something to this car so me buffing on this car.
I didn't know that people were chit-chatting about it but um like the next day I had another friend that was there he owns a shop in Kentucky he just looked at me he was like no no like people know,
that this is the one that the girl painted,
I was like that's cool and all but like there are they saying it it looks good like that's what I'm worried about how do you feel about that Madison I'm just curious because I have heard other stories where,
there is a jealousy Factor where there's some men not all of them but there are some men.
Who feel the recognition that some women get is whether it's in Motorsports.
And maybe it's the sponsors that they get or the attention that they get or.
In automotive any other Automotive space that it's because there are girl what do you think about that when things like that or said.
[47:20] It gets on my nerves so bad I mean.
I think that's that has a lot to do with me not wanting my face on anything you know what I mean I'm more like hey here's my work,
don't look at me look at what I produced you know like that's that's where I'm at.
I've been I've been called every name in the book you know in high school there was stuff written about me on the bathroom stall you know,
in college there was a lot of jealousy with this one girl that was in my class and it was it was it's not like it's funny that I think back about it now but um,
we're in paint class and the instructor was saying.
[48:06] We're talking about candy paint jobs like true candy paint jobs and hear the saying if anybody were to walk out of this classroom,
that could that I had confidence I could do it a true candy paint job it would be Madison and the looks and I got.
how did you handle those things because you just shared a couple of off-the-cuff examples of some of those kind of uncomfortable.
Unjustified situations that you were put in right how did you handle those if you were talking to other you know young women coming up through the industry.
What tips and tricks would you tell them to help them through their Journey first I'll try to be.
[48:59] As delicate with the situation with this conversation because.
There are some bad apples and I have been denied jobs because of bad apples,
multiple jobs like I can count more than one.
Because I didn't want to female in the shop because their wife is jealous and you know they've had a female in the shop and they've slept with everybody in the shop and in the mechanic shop you know what I mean so,
I think that says it all right there Madison if you're really in this industry.
Because you want to be in this industry you have to respect yourself before you can get respect from somebody else.
And what I mean by that is.
You know I can't be posing in some booty shorts across the hood of a car and be taken seriously you know.
[50:04] We've we've got to present ourselves not your typical stereotype whatever you know,
I'm seeing what you got for me though this is a tough topic right it is it is it's something that I've tried to explain,
because it's the very essence of what Femcanic Garage about,
they're it boils down to me and you can tell me if I'm misrepresenting what you're trying to say in any way it boils down to me I have a my daughter is going to turn 13 years old next week.
And I know she goes online and checks out what Mom does and she probably checks out these women that I'm interviewing as well,
social media you can find tons of different things right internet you can find tons of different things.
In what I ask myself is before I ask anyone to be on the Femcanic Garage show.
I go and research and myself and I ask myself a simple question.
Is this the type of image and female empowerment I want my daughter to uses a role model.
[51:12] If I can answer yes to that that woman is a woman I want on my podcast.
That is very well said and I don't want my daughter's gorgeous she's a beautiful young girl and I don't want her.
Thinking the only way to get attention and to get someplace.
Is through sexualizing herself and don't get me wrong Aye-Aye,
[51:42] I want women to embrace their femininity I love that we can be in a male-dominated industry and still be feminine it's the very essence of the word Femcanic right right let's embrace our feminism,
in female empowerment does not equal mailed this empowerment.
[52:01] And I want to I want to be a role model and I want all these women that in an interview because everything always sounds better when it's not coming from Mom right everyone else is the genius not Mom,
but if through the women that I interview maybe just maybe it'll create this space for teaching young women.
How they can be strong independent.
Intelligent feminine women that Embrace their femininity without sexualizing themselves 100%.
It's tough I've heard multiple things through these interviews where they're when you say One Bad Apple can ruin the whole bunch is that there are women out there who do it more for the attention,
right then For the Love of the skill.
Right where the sport and it's it's more about that for you.
[52:59] Right so to Circle back to it the girls out here that really do have their heart and soul into it you will.
[53:10] The nasty remarks the oh you just do it for the attention and you are where you are because you are a female.
You know those kind of things which has happened to me multiple times I will give one example there's a shop down the road.
This was right whenever I opened up my shop we were able to get a job and we bought a,
a brand new Cody well I say we but um you know customer he wanted a crate coyote in this 68 F100 so.
Anyway I was super excited about it and I posted a selfie it's just kind of like a me and this engine on the crate and like a thumbs up like I'm so excited for this you know and.
This person was like so who's going to put that in I was like we are and he went on to talking about how I'm at I'm where I am because I'm a female and I have,
all these sponsorships that's how I'm able to do what I do.
And you know just a whole lot of crazy talk most of the people that say these kind of things don't know you at all they don't know your story there it's all rooted out of jealousy.
[54:33] Nobody gives me anything I've had a bar everything here nobody gives me anything for free I have no sponsorships this is us working hard building the shop up good for you for standing your ground yeah,
good for you I think this this kind of segues and you kind of mentioned it but you have your own shop now.
Yeah that you were forced into that because of exactly what you just said is around jealousy yeah,
how crazy is it that we were in church Sunday and I was talking to a guy and he was saying oh yeah well you know I heard,
I heard there was a girl that was Peyton here and then he let her go because he was there's jealousy issues and she's over here working on her own shop and I was like,
oh yeah that sounds pretty familiar you know I was like that's pretty that's pretty funny that other people see it too,
[55:33] Was that a different female that happened to her he was just heard about the story and the story was really you yeah yeah that's exactly what it was and he didn't even realize it no didn't even realize it wow.
So how is your business has been up and going for how long.
A little over two years we opened July August dish in 2018.
Well congratulations in you know hey your doors are still open your surviving through covid so kudos to you.
[56:07] Thank you thank you it's been rough on everybody you know I feel for the small businesses in our town that had to shut down.
It was just it was it's just been a weird year you know yes it has this is this has been.
[56:26] One of the most challenging years by far for many reasons and the very thing that I love about this industry.
[56:36] We couldn't have any of those events this year.
[56:39] I know and that's the time that I often get to meet and meet up with the amazing women that I've had an opportunity to talk to virtually,
and sometimes it's the only time I get to see him as during these events because,
women in the industry and men in the industry often times work long hours so taking some time off and just shooting shooting the shit sometimes is.
Isn't always a feasible option especially leading up to those events there's a lot of long hours that are put in oh yeah absolutely.
So do you think your shop will get a car up to the Detroit Auto Rama eventually yeah.
[57:25] There's nothing in mind at the moment I do have one in mind that I would like to take two good guys who which one which good guys.
[57:37] Say Columbus say the Columbus one yeah yeah I mean I don't really know all the details about good guys just whichever one we have to take it to I'm in Columbus Ohio so okay,
come on to Columbus I know the good guys Nationals one of their larger shows as here in Columbus oh yeah goody vent to see some people.
Oh for sure,
and that that's really fun for me I love the good guy shows for sure yeah it's there's so many great cars I mean all of those you talk about Sima good guys I haven't been to Detroit on a rama that is in my bucket list to go but,
imagine you walk around those shows you see amazing,
car after car after car anytime you leave there and you come home to regular cars yes like right right yeah and what's cool about the,
is like upstairs,
is 100% serious like you got judges walking around with like a magnifying glass you know what I mean,
it's intense its high stress,
like I can't I can't even watch them you know they're looking at everything and I know where every flaw is and I'm like oh well they don't feel like don't don't walk over there don't.
[58:54] Don't get out your magnifying glass right there.
Yeah I'm like don't do that so so that's the top floor right and then you go on the bottom floor which has.
[59:07] Bunch of rat rods rockabilly concerts Gene Winfield's down there chopping a,
something you know chopping the top of something like it's just awesome like two completely different environments you know what I mean I want to compare here so.
Sima versus Detroit Auto Rama
hmm I don't know that's a good one I really.
Hmm Detroit I don't get out around Detroit you know what I mean like I just I go to the show and that's it but at Seema,
there's a lot of After parties that you know I don't drink or whatever but just the After parties that the the companies,
put on it's just a Gathering Place like Count's Kustoms does a get together every year.
I go to that one you know there's just a lot of stuff to do after the show the cars are cool.
[1:00:12] The you know the gathering places and the hangout you really get to talk to these people just after the show too,
more so at Seema yeah yeah gotcha they both have their perks and benefits,
right and there may be some little competitions at Seema I'm not for sure oh Builder something builder of the year or something.
There's there's some stuff going on at Seema but seems pretty much like a laid-back show off your stuff,
not true judging like what you'd see at the Detroit Auto Rama oh yeah that's stressful there tell you.
[1:00:52] Well I think this is a good time to launch into the red line around Madison what it is is a five rapid-fire questions there's no right or wrong answer to it whatever pops into your heads right answer are you ready all right.
All right who or what has been your inspiration throughout your journey in the industry.
[1:01:12] I know you said rapid fire but I'm like.
[1:01:19] Doo doo doo yeah that I have no clue I mean there's.
[1:01:26] I get my inspiration from so many people so many things know it's hard to really Pin It Down.
Okay you know what my mom your mama yep what is mom's name Tracy Tracy you've done well.
Yes done well Tracy yeah I'm like no what my mom she's been there through thick and thin that is way cool that is way cool.
[1:01:52] You just you just made your mom stay by the way oh yeah she's the best I'm telling you.
Madison where do you go or what resources do you use when you want to learn something new or you get stuck on a job.
[1:02:06] YouTube man everything is on YouTube.
Like you know of course you can go to the TDS sheets you can go to the different things but I go to YouTube a lot like I'm having.
Like on that Cody I'm having a problem trying to get a solid Tech reading and,
I gotta MSD gmr pickup I got this other classic instruments converter thing and you know this is the first time I'm wiring stuff and,
I'm just I'm having a hard time with it so I'm like why didn't I think about this YouTube so oh man there's so much stuff on YouTube.
Absolutely yeah YouTube YouTube YouTube.
There's some good stuff on there absolutely Madison what excites you most about what you do.
The finished product I've seen your finished products but excite me too.
I mean that's really.
[1:03:14] I don't know like whenever I start to see things come together I start to get really excited,
you know of course like I like the painting that's probably my my favorite thing to do but whenever we start,
putting things together and final assembly like okay let's like let's like work double time try to get this thing done you know I'm like like I just I'm pushing through till the finish product like that,
I just I have the end goal in mind you know like that's where I'm shooting for beautiful.
There is something to be said for that so.
It's hard to explain to someone and I'm trying to think of a good analogy and I'm struggling with it but when you put that much time and attention and effort into something like the first time that you hear the engine turn over.
The first time that you drive it it just it's a Feeling.
[1:04:13] Unlike any other it really is it's not a big surprise people are moved to tears when it happens.
[1:04:21] Oh yeah
we were we were stuck on that coyote for a while like I just we turn it over it run for two seconds and they have a stop.
You know it would blow a fuse and it would just cut off and,
I don't want to tell you what fixed it because it was it was just so stupid I am
but anyway whenever we fixed it and it started running we are able to drive it take it on test drives I was just like okay let's yeah it's just like an adrenaline boost.
Yeah what is a personal habit or practice that has helped you significantly in the industry when you feel stuck or discouraged.
Hmm walk away you you've got to walk away from the problem for a minute.
You know sit back think you know what did I do did I do anything wrong
because if you just if you just keep working on it and try to fix it and you're just emotionally physically drained you're not helping anything you just hey it's going to be there tomorrow.
Let's take a break walk away Sound Advice that is sound advice and speaking of advice.
What is your parting advice to other Femcanic is finding their way in the skilled trades industry.
[1:05:48] Um number one advice I see a lot of ladies and like the Facebook groups that take a lot of stuff personally with the guys in the shop.
Like these girls were really take the stuffed heart and know it's really hard to not,
really take this stuff seriously so I grew up with a big brother you know one thing that my mom would always tell me it's just like a normal like act like it doesn't bother you and that will bother them more,
and it works so you know even if you say something if somebody says something to you that's that's a little hurtful which it takes practice,
to not be hurt by somebody like that so.
If somebody says something to you hopeful just know that you can.
[1:06:48] You can't control what other people say but you can control how you react to him I love that that is so well said yeah.
Somebody can come up here and start yelling in my face and if I just start yelling back you know what's that going to solve.
But if I just sit here and act like you don't bother me which you know sometimes it may not really and sometimes it may bother me but I'm going to act like doesn't that's gonna affect him a lot more than.
You know firing back on because that's what they want they want,
to poke you and push your buttons and get you all fired up and they just like to antagonize so if you don't play into their little games and just like Hitler.
I'm catching what your throne and I'm throwing it back yeah and I mean they will they will even respect you a little bit more.
[1:07:44] He's got to work with what you got you know people in this industry are going to be crude they're going to be nasty you just better.
Figure out how to deal with it that is Sound Advice in Madison where and how can people connect with you and your company,
I have a Facebook I might not add you for three months but if you just want to add me on Facebook just Madison Alexander my business is on Facebook riveting rides,
I am on Instagram which is Madison underscore Alexander with like two x's,
Riven rides is not Instagram to its ribboning underscore arise I don't wait I know Tick-Tock you know that so.
[1:08:31] Yeah I think your response because I have it on there for people to share that stuff and you put definitely not for tick-tock.
[1:08:41] Yeah no oh that's wonderful Madison thank you so much for being in the driver seat today I so enjoyed.
Walking us through your journey in the NFL.
[1:08:53] You very much my name is Madison Alexander and I'm the owner of riveting ride hot rods and custom in Milan Tennessee and I am a Femcanic.
Joanie Butler is in the driver seat next this small-town girl from Northern California Grace the amateur surfing scene in the early 90s all while pursuing her passion in the trades.
Immediately after high school she entered into the trades Moonlighting as an assistant crew chief on a NASCAR Sportsman team.
Certified in small engine mechanics taught herself how to weld before YouTube was an option,
dabbled in metal art and was a sales representative and metal fabricator for a company that sold direct fit catalytic converters and later was recruited to work for Arc Zone.com.
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